Thursday 1 February 2007

Dawah on MSN

increasingly people are spending a lot of their time online and on MSN. this is an excellent opportunity to tell people about islam, because naturally in ther own homes people feel much more comfortable and online they are much more open too. face to face there are sometimes some barriers.
so what we have started is to do dawah online (telling people about islam), not converting them, as that would be trying sumthing only Allah can do - we cannot convert even 1 person - only Allah can guide them. all we are doing is giving them the information for them to make that decision for themselves.
so what i propose us muslims online do is add each other ( that way we have collectively more knowledge and poeple to give dawah to) and then after reading this brief (badly written in some parts) guide - go ahead and give dawah.
People involved:


Umair --- umair_tk@hotmail.com
Ibrahim --- ibrahim_thebest123@hotmail.com
Ammar--- ammar_tg@hotmail.com
Danyal--- m_danyal@hotmail.co.uk
Akib
Zeeshan---
Adam
Ashraf
wasif wasif_syed_44@hotmail.com
(add us plz)

Why we r doing it:
as its Fard on us to convey message of Islam
as Biggest sunnah of Messenger (saw)
as it says so in the quran: 12:108
as its our obligation to the non muslims we meet - so that they cant say to us on the say of resurrection
that we didnt tell them about Islam...and then we'll be in a tight spot

WHo we r doing it for:
We are doing it for Allah alone, and if we do it for ANY other reason then we aint doing it for Allah
so we have to keep a tabs on our intention all the time.

What are we doing?
calling to the worship of the creator ( ALllah) alone and without partners rather than the worhship
of the creation.
calling to worship Allah in the way he has said in the Quran and to do it according to the sunnah
of the Prophet (saw)

so basically...the kalimah/shahadah - no God worthy of
being worshipped except Allah, and Muhammad (saw) is his messenger.

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| 11 key things for dawah |
| |
| 1) doing it only for Allah |
| 2) knowing what we r calling to: eg knowing basics about Islam - certain knowledge |
| 3) call to EVERYONE - all have that right to know the truth. |
| 4) sincerity - practise what you preach - absolutely vital |
| 5) know intellectual background, and background of listeners- |
| relationship should be like a doctor to a patient. |
| 6) know your and their psychology -good first impression- plant a seed about islam |
| never get emotive, and argumentative, keep convo postive (lots of LOLs and ROFLs :)|
| 7) oppose falsehood and aggression in any form - justice is huhe concept in islam |
| 8) dont get dragged into proving bible wrong-if it happens it happens |
| but always remember keep the convo about islam at all times. |
| 9) offer better alternative - islam and social ills, purpose of life etc |
|10) be patient- remember ppl dont change overnight - many take years |
| to become a muslim, its important that we plant that seed and then nurture it |
|11) be ready to accept criticism, and be adaptable, and this comes with experience - |
| - so gain some and do dawah all the time u r online! |
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coming soon!
Quran-
what it is
who its for
what it talks about
its compilation-comparison with bible
science in the quran


Islam- a way of life
--Islam and Social problems
-drugs, smoking etc
-no sex before marriage
-islamic economics
-islamic laws
etc

--islam and everyday life
-islam and toiletry
-eating
-sleeping
-talking
-studying
etc





things to say to certain types of people: ( for the argumentative among us ;) )

------------------------------------------------------------christians--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


First of all before we give some points of discussion about christianity - we always seem to forget
that our aim is not to prove their religion is false, rather it is to prove Islam is right.
we shouldnt criticise them and make them go on the defensive as then our objective of inviting them to
Islam is not going to be acheived however well we put it after that attack on their beliefs. If
it does infact crop up then obviously we discuss it, but always remember to give the islamic viewpoint
,which without exception makes more sense, so as to keep telling them about Islam.

We should also tell them about the similarities between us eg. "we have to love Jesus mor than we love
our own parents" or "we have to believe in the bible to be muslim"(obviously the uncorrupted initial version) or
"islam also teaches peace and forgiveness", or "we also pray to God" etc etc

What do they believe:

1)the majority believe in the trinity (their way of explaining God): Father, Son, Holy Ghost.
They believe that God is 3 parts in 1.
2)They believe Jesus was man and God.
3)They believe the Bible to be the word of God.
4)They believe Jesus died for the forgiveness of our sins
5)they believe he was resurrected after 3 days.

(--a good reference for christianity is www.answering-christianity.com--)


-Point 1
--------
the trinity doesnt make sense. its not correct logically. when talking this analogy is quite good:
"You say Jesus, Father and holy spirit is God?" "ok so Jesus is one pencil, Father is another and Holy
spirit is another. that is 3 pencils...how can 3 pencils = 1 pencil?"
now they will generally say "no they are all at once so they are one"
say:so 1/3=0.333 - so jesus is only a third God? - isnt that limiting God and saying theres something
he cant do? - isnt that defeating the purpose of God? -
also the trinity isnt mentioned ONCE in the entire bible!, jesus (as) never claims to be god! infact
jesus comes across as a very monothiestic and humble messenger of God in the Bible -
how then can christians say he is god if he never even claims it - its like you saying im going to kiss everyone
who walks past me, after you hear me clearly say that i am gonna kick anyone that walks past me!

now theres a new argument - "we cannot comprehend god" - they say- therefore it doesnt matter if we cant make sense of the trinity...
okay if that is the case:
1) why does the torah stick to a monotheistic god? (and the majority of the NT too)- if they believe in the torah (OT)...
then they must realise that they have totally changed the whole nature of god form what the bible states.
why does god change his entire way of revealing himself and reveal 2/3 more of himself in the NT?
2) life is a test - god wants us to believe in him - why would he reveal an illogical and unbelievable religion then?
then using this argument we could argue anything about god - like say a relgion says that a female goddess mated
with a male god and produced discworld which morphed into the earth etc etc - all this makes sense when we say we cannot comprehend god!


and then offer them the islamic answer - god is one and only one and jesus is not god and only a messenger of god.
-point 2
--------
Jesus was man and God? - so he somehow combined his weakness of man with the infinite power of God?
So when jesus died on the cross...who died...God? - was the world without God for 3 days?
So when Jesus says he doesnt know when the day of Judgement is...is he not God...isnt he all knowing.
when he prays...is he praying to himself...why is he asking himself for forgiveness or help if he is
god himself...is he accepting the superiority of the father over himself? in which case he isnt all-
powerful!
why does he say "he is my God and your God" - err..isnt he God?

perhaps the biggest point here is this: If jesus was God - and the Bible is the book of God - Why in
the world doesnt it say even once in the Bible - clearly that Jesus was God?? thats like claiming
that I am giving away money...without me ever saying so...and then people accepting the words of other
people...

Jesus is called the Son of God in the Bible - but then again...so is Adam and so is David among
others...this was an expression in those days meaning to be a Prophet or someone close to God.

Jesus says in the bible he has not come to change the law (jewish beliefs) rather to reliven them...isnt saying
that Jesus (as) is God totally against the monotheism Judaism teaching?


- Point 3
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www.video.google.com - search for "who wrote the bible" for a useful resource - and of course
answering-christianity.com... ;)

some points...Bible scholars accept that the writers of the 4 gospels were all anonymous, they have
ascribed them to Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, but no-one knows who wrote them.
The Bible was compiled a full 150-300 years after jesus! it was compiled by people who had their own sets of beliefs
and they only chose gospels most suited to those specific beliefs...

incidentally 27 gospels were left out of the final Bible! among which are the gospel of Barnabas, peter, thomas and mary
magdelene! these people form main characters in the gospels... and their writings are declared as heretical!
(incidentally the gospel of barnabas is supposed to contain prophecies by name of Muhammed (saw) - search it online..)
muhammad in the Bible - \deut, xviii, 15 /john, xiv, 16, also check out shaykh Deedats works - very useful (search online)

The Bible has clear contradictions such as the genealogy of Jesus in Mathew 1:1 and Luke ...
(for more...refer to answering-christianity.com)

The Bible also has sections where it says "early manuscripts dont mention this bit"...why is it included then? surely
the manuscripts closest to the time were most accurate, and anyway why were there differences between the two texts...
surely as "Gods word" it couldnt be edited by any freestyle scribe? ( interesting use of freestyle...;) )
the gospel writers were not eye-witnesses...rather they wrote about events from hearsay of others.

also the bible is scientifically incorrect - in the creation story - it clearly says:
1) that the night and day were there before the sun and the moon!
2) that the plants came before the sun!
3) no evolution whatsoever in 7 days
4) they may argue that 7 periods of time argument - well how do plants survive millions of years before the sun? and anyway
when god rests on the 7th day...is there no evolution then?
now they may try to neatly sidestep this argument by saying that the creation story is actually just figurative before science
told us the truth...well tell them...u say the bible is from god...that god knows all...its for guidance...why then would god LIE
to us in his holy book? - also this means the bible contradicts clear fact - sumthing we can prove for sumthing in contradiction to...
it...we obviously believe the proveable side! science! quran too! dawah territory!


now tell them about there only being one version of the quran - and how its exactly the same as the first quran-and then
discuss the quran and bring in islam ( dawah teritory)

-point 4
--------
jesus died for the forgiveness of our sins, to get rid of original sin...and went to hell for 3 days.
okay well first of all we ask the question...why didnt Jesus "supposedly God" not just forgive the sins - or why did the
"loving father" not just forgive the sins?
2nd - its highly unfair that one man suffers for everyone...thats like hanging me for Ian huntleys murders! totally
unfair! And God is most just...wheres the justice...and anyway isnt this world supposed to be a test? wheres the test
now if we aint gonna be punished whatever happens?
next we can recyle the point that if jesus is god...and god dies on the cross...who the hell (pardon the pun) is running
the world?
next if jesus went to hell for 3 days...why dont the Gospels mention it?...and anyway this is "God" we are talking
about...God doesnt need to get punished...thats just plain stupid... god creates us to test us...he makes everyone pass
the test...and then he punishes himself for out sins? whaaat!


- point 5
---------
jesus was resurrected...but was he? the early gospels dont mention this.
also when jesus "is resurrected" he is seen my Mary Magdelene ( a close companion) but she doesnt recognise him! this is
her religious leader who shes been taught by...and she doesnt recognise him..how can that be...the same for the
disciples...they dont recognise him either! how can that possibly be?
then theres the conundrum that is the sign of Jonah - (http://www.jamaat.net/jonah/signofjonah.html) - basically jesus
says he will give:ND THERE SHALL NO SIGN (no miracle) BE GIVEN TO IT, BUT THE SIGN (miracle) OF THE PROPHET JONAS: FOR
AS JONAS WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE WHALE'S BELLY - now jonas was alive in the belly of the whale - so jesus
was alive in the belly of the earth too...also the three days and three night totally doesnt add up as if jesus was buried
on friday evening and the tomb was empty by the sunday morning- then we are looking at only 1 day and 2 nights!

general tips:
always focus on the trinity more - as that is easiest to lead to islam and tawheed (one-ness of Allah)
dont waste too much time on die-hard christians as they are just not interested in what you have to say...
its hard to not get in a heated debate sumtimes but always try to keep the temperature at under 14 degrees celsius :)



---------------------------------------------------------------Atheists---------------------------------------------------------------------

They are basically people who don't believe that God exists.

- Point 1 - BIG BANG THEORY
---------------------------
This is something the atheist use to explain how we came into being. The theory of big bang tells us that there were some "matter"
at the beginning which had immense temperature and density. And there was like a supernova which caused the space to expand... and the
earth was formed.

QURAN's VIEW ON THIS: Then He Istawa (rose over) towards the heaven when it was SMOKE, and said to it and to the earth: "Come both
of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come, willingly." (41:11).

"Do not the unbelievers see that the Heavens and the earth were joined together, then We split them apart." (21:30)

This shows that Quran completely agrees with the theory of big bang. At this point during your conversation, you could say, "How could
someone know about this 1400 years ago?"

Also, where did this matter for big bang come from?

- Point 2 - BIG BANG THEORY EXTENDED...
---------------------------------------
It is also known that the space is constantly expanding... The Quran agrees with it and this is what it says:

"And the firmament, We constructed with power and skill and verily We are expanding it." (51:47)
**firemanent means "the vault of heaven; sky"
Who could have known that 1400 years ago? Only Allah.


- Point 3 - Theory of Evolution
-----------------------------------
Theory of evolution states how we all came from water. Quran also agrees with it.

"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece,
then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:30)

Evolution then goes on to claim how we evolved from one species to another... this is where the problem arises... we as muslims don't agree
with this as we know and are told that Prophet Adam was created on his image (i.e. he didnt go through stages of being infant etc).
Furthermore, if you think about it, life started from water... so lets say fishes were the first animals. How would a fish develop lungs? Why would it need
to? Its gills are specialised to take in oxygen from water. It is inefficient to breathe in water and extract oxygen from it, as water is dense and so lots
of energy will be wasted to carry this out.
I asked this question to someone and he said what if the fish gets washed to the shores and lays eggs. Clearly there are some things wrong with this
suggestion. Firstly, the fish would die if it leaves the water since fishes dont "breathe" in air but get their oxygen from water. Secondly, say for argument's
sake, the fish layed eggs as soon as it came to the shore and then died. The eggs won't hatch into animals with lungs because they contain genes for forming
gills, so they would immediately die.

We believe partly in evolution, things like "adapting" to environment. So, for example if I go live at high altitude, my body will start to produce more red
blood cells to carry more oxygen. This is because there is less oxygen in the environment at high altitude. The body "adapts" to the environment. As you can
see this idea is completely logic and makes sense.



- Other General Points - including Lion analogy
-----------------------------------------------

athiests think they are the most logical ppl on earth (they love science)as they think its irrational to believe in god or to give god as a
reason for our creation etc. -
firstly congratulate them on their independent thinking, and their quest for believing in proven things then ask them why they dont believe in
god?

okay give them this higly logical analogy: you have a room, someone says there is a lion in it...they offer you a gun...do u or do u not take it?
lets break the answers down:
u take the gun - no lion - ur safe
u take the gun - lion attacks in a bloody rage and jumps for your throat...u shoot it...ur safe
u dont take the gun - no lion - ur safe
u dont take the gun -lion attacks in a bloody rage and jumps for your throat...the lion gets your throat, and eats you. - emphatically not safe!

so the obvious choice is to take the gun (islam) and protect yourself from the lion ( punishment)

also always use science with atheists as they love it - use the obove points for help.

negative cohesion ( using a third party you both oppose to get a relationship together) eg the idea of the trinity...they will see you dont like
irrational concepts.

also very useful is to spell out for them what they believe in, namely: that they have seen everything in the universe, at all times, outside the
universe, and all this at the same time...and therefore have concluded there is no god! - they havent - so they cant say there is absolutely no
chance of there being a god.


these convos should be quite easy to link back to tawheed ( the oneness of God).





---------------------------------------------------------------Agnostics------------------------------------------------------------------------


these aint sure whether there is a god or not....use the atheist section to convince them of a god...then...


1)give them scientific facts in quran as a "wow" factor (so to speak),
2)and then ask them open questions and basically find out their purpose in life
3)where they think we came from,
4)where we are going, etc


obviously always giving islamic viewpoint too...






coming soon!
InshAllah

Deists: think there is a god...but dont follow a religion...
?Hindus?:
?Jews?: (OT reliability maybe)
spiritual religions eg Budhism etc:
ppl not interested:


plz let us know if anything we said is wrong - we are absolutely open to justified criticism-and anything that we said is wrong is from us and anything we said right is from Allah.
and above all -GET INVOLVED!!

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